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Discrete CollectionsThe Women's Library
TitleHorton, Mrs Gertrude
Ref No8SUF/B/139
Box Fetch NoBox 1: Disc 29
Date21 Mar 1977
Extent109:00 mins
DescriptionInterview took place at 315 The Greenway, Epsom Surrey KT18 7JE. Also see interview 8SUF/B/145.

Interview summary:

0:00 mins:
Pippa Strachey: her methods of working, particularly in committees, conversation style, advice to the government on drafting legislation, work with Millicent Fawcett, heavy smoking and failure of her sight towards the end of her life. Role of the Junior Council of the London and National Society for Women's Service (LNSW) in providing support for young professional women. Ethel Watts as first chair of Council. Difficulties of combining marriage and a career in the inter-war years.

15:00 mins:
Alice Franklin resignation from the National Union of Townswomen's Guilds (NUTG) in 1948. Role of Eleanor Rathbone and Eva Hubback in setting up the Guilds in late 1920s; support from Margery Corbett-Ashby of the National Federation of Women's Institutes (NFWI). Guilds as non-political, non-religious organisations designed to educate new voters and to provide a common meeting ground. NUTG's grant from the Carnegie Trust in 1934. Lady Gertrude Denman on birth control at a NUTG conference. How local Townswomen's Guilds were formed in the 1930s.

30:00 mins:
Guilds' annual report and accounts reviewed by Alice Franklin. NUTG handbook,1938. 17 staff by 1949. Alice Franklin's visits to local Guilds. Guild membership growth during the Second World War. Carnegie Trust cut grant during Second World War but government provided financial help towards the Guilds' educational work.

45:00 mins:
Townswomen's Guilds as educational not feminist organisations. Members of the National Union of Societies for Equal Citizenship did not tend to join the Townswomen's Guilds. Gertrude Horton's work as honorary secretary of the Equal Pay Campaign Committee (EPCC) in 1950s. Pippa Strachey's involvement in EPCC and care for sister Pernel Strachey. Ethel Watts chair of EPCC.

60:00 mins:
Work of Ethel Watts and Pippa Strachey. Pippa Strachey as good administrator, delegator and spokeswoman for career women. NUTG relationships with the National Federation of Women's Institutes (NFWI). Took on former NFWI organiser - Mrs Ryland - who did not get on with Alice Franklin. Alice Franklin in the Land Army during the First World War, and joined the NUTG in 1932.

75:00 mins:
Alice Franklin - personality and skills at work alongside Horton. Hugh Franklin's attempt to whip Winston Churchill (1910).Alice Franklin's friendship with Lady Reading, formerly Mrs Van Gruisen. Visits to Franklin's house in Sussex and work alongside Gertrude Horton. Franklin neither a feminist nor a practising Jew.

90:00 mins:
No anti-semitism in the Guilds. Friendship between Margery Corbett-Ashby and Alice Franklin. Margery Corbett-Ashby as President and Chair of the Executive Committee of NUTG until 1935; resigned when she stood for parliament. Replaced as President by Lady Cynthia Colville. Replaced as Chair of Executive Committee by Joan Loring. Loring's skills at work.

105:00 mins:
Miss Fulford on the NUTG's Executive Committee. Work of Eva Hubback, her ineffectiveness in committee meetings. Eleanor Rathbone and Elizabeth Macadam advised the NUTG via Hubback.
Related Record8SUF/B/145
Access StatusOpen
Access ConditionsInterview recordings are available online and can be accessed at the link provided in this record.
Former Reference NumberTape 51
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